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Cronk'sArmy
Posted: Saturday, October 11, 2008 12:09:56 PM
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Jason wrote:


Yea never happen in the nrl, but that wasnt even the record lol. When they trailed 11 players in the toyota cup, that didnt work. I dont think they need to take out 2 players just for a better running game. they should just leave it just like it is.


Yes i agree. Some rules need to be kept as it is. 13 on the field is the way it should be, now and always.
walford
Posted: Saturday, October 11, 2008 12:13:45 PM
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Jason wrote:


Yea never happen in the nrl, but that wasnt even the record lol. When they trailed 11 players in the toyota cup, that didnt work. I dont think they need to take out 2 players just for a better running game. they should just leave it just like it is.


I don't know I was really skeptical about it, but I thought it did add a fair bit of excitment to the game without making it too much of a free for all. I don't think it'll ever be brought into the game proper, but I wouldn't mind seeing a pre season tournament or something with 11 players.
Jason
Posted: Saturday, October 11, 2008 12:14:26 PM
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Cronk'sArmy wrote:


Yes i agree. Some rules need to be kept as it is. 13 on the field is the way it should be, now and always.


Nah they would change it to 11 men on the field just take a look at news just can in England Just Thrash Wales 74-0 even without 3 quaters of their team. They cant say that they will get a better running game.

LINK:
http://www.nrl.com.au/News/Latest/tabid/10244/default.aspx?id=53187
Cronk'sArmy
Posted: Saturday, October 11, 2008 12:23:20 PM
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Jason wrote:


Nah they would change it to 11 men on the field just take a look at news just can in England Just Thrash Wales 74-0 even without 3 quaters of their team. They cant say that they will get a better running game.

LINK:
http://www.nrl.com.au/News/Latest/tabid/10244/default.aspx?id=53187


Interesting link...
Scotty
Posted: Saturday, October 11, 2008 1:30:35 PM
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I think some rules should be changed, or at the very least reviewed,

1. A change to the GP rule so that if you kick a field goal it doesn't automatically win it for you but the point still goes to your score and if you are still up by that one point at the end of the 10 mins of GP you win than, otherwise only a try or penalty goal will win it for you.

2. A change to the stripping rule so that it is left up to the umpires discretion whether or not they think the player actually had a great impact in stripping the ball or whether the ball carrier just had a loose carry on the ball, a bit of discretionary authority would work well in this area IMO.

3. Perhaps a change so that the 40/20 would become a kick which could be kicked form anywhere from before the 40, a distance thing, like a 35/25, 30/30 etc, would make the players defending have to stay back and guard the sidelines which would mean more chips over the top and spreading of the ball to take advantage of depleted defensive lines.
JustSam
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I just don't like players being able to challenge a stripping penalty. The ref made his decision, live with it.
Jason
Posted: Saturday, October 11, 2008 4:10:13 PM
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Scotty wrote:
I think some rules should be changed, or at the very least reviewed,

1. A change to the GP rule so that if you kick a field goal it doesn't automatically win it for you but the point still goes to your score and if you are still up by that one point at the end of the 10 mins of GP you win than, otherwise only a try or penalty goal will win it for you.

2. A change to the stripping rule so that it is left up to the umpires discretion whether or not they think the player actually had a great impact in stripping the ball or whether the ball carrier just had a loose carry on the ball, a bit of discretionary authority would work well in this area IMO.

3. Perhaps a change so that the 40/20 would become a kick which could be kicked form anywhere from before the 40, a distance thing, like a 35/25, 30/30 etc, would make the players defending have to stay back and guard the sidelines which would mean more chips over the top and spreading of the ball to take advantage of depleted defensive lines.


You come up with some great rules, I always thought about the 40/20 kicks and always wanted that to happen.
Scotty
Posted: Saturday, October 11, 2008 5:54:46 PM
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Jason wrote:


You come up with some great rules, I always thought about the 40/20 kicks and always wanted that to happen.


Yeah I mean you see sometimes they'll kick it from like 20 metres out but it'll go out like 21 metes from the oppositon goal line and so they get nothing, seems a bit unfair.
walford
Posted: Saturday, October 11, 2008 6:12:27 PM
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Scotty wrote:
I think some rules should be changed, or at the very least reviewed,

1. A change to the GP rule so that if you kick a field goal it doesn't automatically win it for you but the point still goes to your score and if you are still up by that one point at the end of the 10 mins of GP you win than, otherwise only a try or penalty goal will win it for you.

2. A change to the stripping rule so that it is left up to the umpires discretion whether or not they think the player actually had a great impact in stripping the ball or whether the ball carrier just had a loose carry on the ball, a bit of discretionary authority would work well in this area IMO.

3. Perhaps a change so that the 40/20 would become a kick which could be kicked form anywhere from before the 40, a distance thing, like a 35/25, 30/30 etc, would make the players defending have to stay back and guard the sidelines which would mean more chips over the top and spreading of the ball to take advantage of depleted defensive lines.


I like your golden point rule, but I still think it would still be a field goal shoot out.

I think the stripping rule needs to be seriously re evaluated, more emphasis needs to be placed on ball security. It is the bloke in possesions responsibility to hold on to the ball. I think so long as only one player is attacking the ball it shouldn't matter how many are involved in the tackle.

I don't like the 40/20 rule change you've suggested. It's too subjective trying to work out if its been kicked from 35 metres out and found touch 25 metres out as there are no lines. I think leave it how it is, however I would like to see a corner post on the 20m line so you can more accurately determine if it has found touch inside the twenty. If you hit the corner post that's inside the twenty.

My rule changes would be:

1. Charge down rule: I hate the fact that players aren't rewarded for making that extra effort to put pressure on the kickers. I don't think it should matter if you have your hands in the air, if the player kicking it isn't good enough or deep enough to get the ball over a players outstretched hands he should not then be rewarded with 6 again.

2. Similar to number one, I hate it when a player is trying to shut down an attacking play and manages to get a hand on the ball while making a tackle with his arms wide and it's ruled a knock on. I say it's a bad pass and should be ruled the same as not played at....

3. Bring back the 5 minute bin for foul play. I think putting a player on report is not enough, especially when they injure an opposition player. If it is bad enough to be put on report than it should also be bad enough for him to sit on the sidelines for 5 minutes. Also this gives an advantage to the team that the offence has occured against, rather than just advantaging the team they play next week when he's suspended.

4. I'm a bit sick of the whole dominant/surrender tackle crap. When the tackle is complete you get up and get to marker, you don't get to lie there at all. You don't get to look at the ref to see when you have to get up, you just get up or get penalised. The advantage you receive from a dominant tackle is that the player is on his back and you are the first player off the ground, you don't also get to wrestle with him for an extra couple of seconds just because you made a good tackle.
Bronco09
Posted: Saturday, October 11, 2008 6:16:57 PM
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I would like to see the addition of golden try rather than a fieldgoalathon or an iffy penalty. I would keep golden try to 5 minutes each way.
Jason
Posted: Saturday, October 11, 2008 7:01:43 PM
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I actually agree they should bring back the 5 minute bin. But i dont agree that the next week you should be banned the next week, it could be just for something small and your have to cope with a one week ban sounds a bit unfair.
Timmah6991
Posted: Saturday, October 11, 2008 7:12:45 PM
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A friend of mine is the brother of an Under 20s Broncos player. Saw him not long ago and he told me they're changing it from Under 20's to Under 18's next year, as in some situations it's 20 year old guys versusing 16-17 boys.
Jason
Posted: Saturday, October 11, 2008 7:16:57 PM
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Timmah6991 wrote:
A friend of mine is the brother of an Under 20s Broncos player. Saw him not long ago and he told me they're changing it from Under 20's to Under 18's next year, as in some situations it's 20 year old guys versusing 16-17 boys.


Is this a joke? (Not saying it false i am saying its ridiculous). That would ruin the game, where are the 19 and 20 year old players going to go? Keep it the same, the 16 and 17 year olds are it the under 20's they must be good enough.

TIMMAH6991 HAS THE DESICION BEEN MADE
straughnies.mum
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new Nrl rule : Ur mum should be hooker of every team
Scotty
Posted: Saturday, October 11, 2008 7:53:50 PM
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walford wrote:


I like your golden point rule, but I still think it would still be a field goal shoot out.

I think the stripping rule needs to be seriously re evaluated, more emphasis needs to be placed on ball security. It is the bloke in possesions responsibility to hold on to the ball. I think so long as only one player is attacking the ball it shouldn't matter how many are involved in the tackle.

I don't like the 40/20 rule change you've suggested. It's too subjective trying to work out if its been kicked from 35 metres out and found touch 25 metres out as there are no lines. I think leave it how it is, however I would like to see a corner post on the 20m line so you can more accurately determine if it has found touch inside the twenty. If you hit the corner post that's inside the twenty.

My rule changes would be:

1. Charge down rule: I hate the fact that players aren't rewarded for making that extra effort to put pressure on the kickers. I don't think it should matter if you have your hands in the air, if the player kicking it isn't good enough or deep enough to get the ball over a players outstretched hands he should not then be rewarded with 6 again.

2. Similar to number one, I hate it when a player is trying to shut down an attacking play and manages to get a hand on the ball while making a tackle with his arms wide and it's ruled a knock on. I say it's a bad pass and should be ruled the same as not played at....

3. Bring back the 5 minute bin for foul play. I think putting a player on report is not enough, especially when they injure an opposition player. If it is bad enough to be put on report than it should also be bad enough for him to sit on the sidelines for 5 minutes. Also this gives an advantage to the team that the offence has occured against, rather than just advantaging the team they play next week when he's suspended.

4. I'm a bit sick of the whole dominant/surrender tackle crap. When the tackle is complete you get up and get to marker, you don't get to lie there at all. You don't get to look at the ref to see when you have to get up, you just get up or get penalised. The advantage you receive from a dominant tackle is that the player is on his back and you are the first player off the ground, you don't also get to wrestle with him for an extra couple of seconds just because you made a good tackle.


HaHa vossy and the fella's on the roast would love that.
Gramsy23
Posted: Sunday, October 12, 2008 12:06:35 AM
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Timmah6991 wrote:
A friend of mine is the brother of an Under 20s Broncos player. Saw him not long ago and he told me they're changing it from Under 20's to Under 18's next year, as in some situations it's 20 year old guys versusing 16-17 boys.


i heard they were gonna go the other way to say under 23s so those 20-23 year olds aren't left languishing in nsw cup/qld cup
Caity
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Soooo many rules to type!
I have a complaint for channel 9 stop punishing us by letting us listen to annoying.. nsw..bias...weird..phil goulds when we're watching the footy!
Caity
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shepards = no!
also the NRL should ban wrestling coaches :s
R2-D2
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Caity wrote:
Soooo many rules to type!
I have a complaint for channel 9 stop punishing us by letting us listen to annoying.. nsw..bias...weird..phil goulds when we're watching the footy!

It's payback for 10 years of Qld bias by Vautin.
Gramsy23
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R2-D2 wrote:

It's payback for 10 years of Qld bias by Vautin.


how can it be qld bias - he was the only queenslander on there competing with a bunch of nsw idiots
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