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Jason
Posted: Saturday, October 11, 2008 11:17:30 AM
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Give your point of view in what rules of the Modern Rugby League game should be changed by the Board and David Gallop. Give suggestions also in what rules should change in the Toyota cup under 20's.
Jason
Posted: Saturday, October 11, 2008 11:21:06 AM
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In the Toyota cup they need to add a upstair man. To many bad desicions in the games when there is a use for a Box man. Bring 2 other refrees on the field in the nrl should be used just for the in goals. Getting ride of tackles like the grapple Tackle, Chicken Wing and the Bulldog are assential.

POINTS SYSTEM: No golden point should be used, to a team losing in extra time is just unjust. 2 points for a win and 1 for a draw. On a bye no points should be awarded it just a rest.
RickDragon
Posted: Saturday, October 11, 2008 11:31:04 AM
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Jason wrote:
In the Toyota cup they need to add a upstair man. To many bad desicions in the games when there is a use for a Box man. Bring 2 other refrees on the field in the nrl should be used just for the in goals. Getting ride of tackles like the grapple Tackle, Chicken Wing and the Bulldog are assential.

POINTS SYSTEM: No golden point should be used, to a team losing in extra time is just unjust. 2 points for a win and 1 for a draw. On a bye no points should be awarded it just a rest.

you get just as many bad decisions coming from the video ref anyway
Jason
Posted: Saturday, October 11, 2008 11:33:40 AM
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RickDragon wrote:

you get just as many bad decisions coming from the video ref anyway


Yea agreed but video referees do give some better desicions than referees. But I understand your point
Cronk'sArmy
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RickDragon wrote:

you get just as many bad decisions coming from the video ref anyway


That's the thing i enjoy about the Toyota Cup, the spontaneous refereeing decisions, with no video referee. I would much rather that, a decision in no less than 10 seconds as opposed to a video ref referral, sometimes taking up to 3-4 minutes. Sure you can say the Video Ref is more likely to get the decisions right, but human error is a part of the game. Allow referees to make up their own minds.
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Cronk'sArmy wrote:


That's the thing i enjoy about the Toyota Cup, the spontaneous refereeing decisions, with no video referee. I would much rather that, a decision in no less than 10 seconds as opposed to a video ref referral, sometimes taking up to 3-4 minutes. Sure you can say the Video Ref is more likely to get the decisions right, but human error is a part of the game. Allow referees to make up their own minds.


although they screwed up majorly in the toyota cup GF - i would rather see that refereeing system > could have an extra on-field ref if you want but it wouldn't make too much diference
Cronk'sArmy
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One change i wouldn't mind, is a two man refereeing system. One referee controlling the attacking team, checking for accidental offside, knock-ons etc, while another referee controlling the defensive team, therefore checking for rakes, high shots, grapples, etc.

Perhaps an in-goal touchie as well?
Cronk'sArmy
Posted: Saturday, October 11, 2008 11:38:20 AM
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Gramsy23 wrote:


although they screwed up majorly in the toyota cup GF - i would rather see that refereeing system > could have an extra on-field ref if you want but it wouldn't make too much diference


That's true. Very frustrating for fans.
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Cronk'sArmy wrote:


That's true. Very frustrating for fans.


then maybe in the finals they could introduce the video ref for try and no try rulings ONLY
Jason
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Cronk'sArmy wrote:
One change i wouldn't mind, is a two man refereeing system. One referee controlling the attacking team, checking for accidental offside, knock-ons etc, while another referee controlling the defensive team, therefore checking for rakes, high shots, grapples, etc.

Perhaps an in-goal touchie as well?


Yeah i agree Cronk'sArmy, now I understand. No need for video referees if you can have in goal referees. Tim Mander should come back, best referee.

Cronk'sArmy do you think they should change the Table scoring because isnt it harsh on the players playing over 80 minutes and game hasn't got a winner?

I think they should give a draw one point with no golden point, I have Wayne Bennett on my side lol
Cronk'sArmy
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Jason wrote:


Yeah i agree Cronk'sArmy, now I understand. No need for video referees if you can have in goal referees. Tim Mander should come back, best referee.

Cronk'sArmy do you think they should change the Table scoring because isnt it harsh on the players playing over 80 minutes and game hasn't got a winner?

I think they should give a draw one point with no golden point, I have Wayne Bennett on my side lol



The Golden Point rule is quite debatable. Personally i like seeing a result being established from a game, although i agree with your point, about players giving it their all for 80 minutes only to play an extra time period to determine a winner which may come from nothing more than a lucky field goal, which does not seem entirely fair.

Golden Point adds to the excitement of the game, fans know the next to score wins, it adds to the intensity and ferocity of the game almost always. Players nowadays have the stamina, fitness and mental strength to go longer than the allocated 80 minutes, allowing them to playout te Golden Point. Some people believe a game should not be determined by Golden Point, but im up for it, if you cannot split a team after 80 minutes, i guess it's the only way to separate two teams who have gone at it all game.

As a follower of the AFL too, i must say, im devastated after a draw, knowing my team came so close only to come out with a draw. It's hard not to dwell on the "could haves" or "should haves". Golden Point allows a result, which im all up for.
Cronk'sArmy
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Gramsy23 wrote:


then maybe in the finals they could introduce the video ref for try and no try rulings ONLY


That could and would work in my opinion.
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these newbies...This Jason guy only made about 30 posts and already started 3 threads!! Thankfully his threads offer some healthy discussion not just shit like other newbies
Cronk'sArmy
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Hendo Maroon wrote:
these newbies...This Jason guy only made about 30 posts and already started 3 threads!! Thankfully his threads offer some healthy discussion not just shit like other newbies


I agree, at least Jason is on topic and starting some worthwhile discussions.
Jason
Posted: Saturday, October 11, 2008 11:54:25 AM
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Cronk'sArmy wrote:



The Golden Point rule is quite debatable. Personally i like seeing a result being established from a game, although i agree with your point, about players giving it their all for 80 minutes only to play an extra time period to determine a winner which may come from nothing more than a lucky field goal, which does not seem entirely fair.

Golden Point adds to the excitement of the game, fans know the next to score wins, it adds to the intensity and ferocity of the game almost always. Players nowadays have the stamina, fitness and mental strength to go longer than the allocated 80 minutes, allowing them to playout te Golden Point. Some people believe a game should not be determined by Golden Point, but im up for it, if you cannot split a team after 80 minutes, i guess it's the only way to separate two teams who have gone at it all game.

As a follower of the AFL too, i must say, im devastated after a draw, knowing my team came so close only to come out with a draw. It's hard not to dwell on the "could haves" or "should haves". Golden Point allows a result, which im all up for.



Ummmm yeah. You see that Wentworthville game vs Newtown. That was a bit ridiculous going for 104 minutes, had 26 field goal attempts but missed. That should have ended another way? After the game both half backs and five eights got signed up by nrl clubs (What were the clubs thinking none of them got a field goal and all the tries came out from wide). Thats just my opinion a good half-back should be able to put a droppy over and set up some tries.
Cronk'sArmy
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Jason wrote:



Ummmm yeah. You see that Wentworthville game vs Newtown. That was a bit ridiculous going for 104 minutes, had 26 field goal attempts but missed. That should have ended another way? After the game both half backs and five eights got signed up by nrl clubs (What were the clubs thinking none of them got a field goal and all the tries came out from wide). Thats just my opinion a good half-back should be able to put a droppy over and set up some tries.


Quite a random statement in the context of this thread....
Jason
Posted: Saturday, October 11, 2008 12:01:57 PM
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Cronk'sArmy wrote:


Quite a random statement in the context of this thread....


Sorry I went a bit of topic. I was trying to say something has to change in finals when there is golden point. Possibly putting in a field goal shoot out lol (That was random), but yeah a game cant go 104 minutes and only have 12 interchanges.
Cronk'sArmy
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Jason wrote:


Sorry I went a bit of topic. I was trying to say something has to change in finals when there is golden point. Possibly putting in a field goal shoot out lol (That was random), but yeah a game cant go 104 minutes and only have 12 interchanges.


That was a once in a billion occurance, let me assure you it would never happen in the NRL, where kickers are a lot more skilled in potting field goals.
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RickDragon wrote:

you get just as many bad decisions coming from the video ref anyway


I've actually done a bit of research on this in the back half of the season and you are exactly right, there are just as many decisions that the commentators disagree with when the video ref is used as when he's not i.e Toyota Cup.

I think we should scrap the video ref all together, he doesn't get it right any more often than when the referee makes the decision on the spot and he slows the game to a crawl...
Jason
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Cronk'sArmy wrote:


That was a once in a billion occurance, let me assure you it would never happen in the NRL, where kickers are a lot more skilled in potting field goals.


Yea never happen in the nrl, but that wasnt even the record lol. When they trailed 11 players in the toyota cup, that didnt work. I dont think they need to take out 2 players just for a better running game. they should just leave it just like it is.
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