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OldPom wrote:"but you expect that before you send your kids there, if it's not compolsury and a student chooses to take the subject I have no problem with it."
Scotty, there's a bit of a difference between a "student choose" and "send your kids there". Young kids aren't usually asked what subjects they'd like to study.
Yes There is a difference but at the age we are talking about parents make the decisions for their kids in regards of the school they send their kids to, as they should do, people of that age are not able to make those decisions for themselves while taking into account the full range of factors and what not, and what is wrong with teaching it if a student wants to learn about it, it only makes sense that if you go to a christian school you are going to learn about these kinds of things, but like I said if you had a problem with that you shouldn't have sent your children to a school of that kind in the first place, only a bloody idiot wouldn't have foreseen that a kid at a religious school is going to learn about religion and religion related things. In regards to Public or non christian schools I agree that that it should not be forced into the curriculum but like I said if the kids and the parents decide that they would like their children to learn about it, and the subject is offered as a separate learning module than I don't see any problem with it.
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I think we need to know where Kumara stands on this, in view of his great enthusiasm for Mr Palin, who favours Creationism for kids.Does he himself believe in Creationism.
Mighty Crow - what exactly was the point of your parody of my original posting? I'm afraid it rather escapes me.
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Apologies - but not very sincere ones - for referring to Palin as "Mr".
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OldPom wrote:I think we need to know where Kumara stands on this, in view of his great enthusiasm for Mr Palin, who favours Creationism for kids.Does he himself believe in Creationism.
Mighty Crow - what exactly was the point of your parody of my original posting? I'm afraid it rather escapes me. Its great of you to invite me along to the debate OldleftyPom. Where i stand on the issue is exactly the same as where Palin stands...which is that Creationism should not be swept under the carpet when it is brought up, but instead debated. Are you scared of debate Old Pom? Surely debate for kids is a good thing isnt it? Learn both sides of the story, look at the evidence and make a well thought out decision. Funny enough, i think the same about every political issue...global warming, socialism, capitalism, tough penalties for crime, feminism etc,etc. I know it might seem really out there for a Lefty to actually see someone who wants kids to get all the information in the classroom and make a decision for themeselves, instead of leftist propaganda being forced down kids throats and being downgraded if they dare go against the leftist doctrine (global warming a great example) but i do believe that if something you find so rediculous as creationism is debated, wouldnt kids find it easy to make a decision on it, so whats the big deal? You want to brainwash them lefty ***** first is that it? You dont have to apolagise for stating she is a man either OldPom. I know its just that leftist "tolerance" that is so prevalent amongst people of your ilk. Its all you really have, the name calling, lies and misquoting for the sake of having something to show your total lack of ability to debate an issue without sounding like a complete and utter intolerant fascist lefty. Hope this clears up my position. Dont be scared of information kids.
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DamoSanchez wrote:I go to a Private Catholic school and it is compulsory in Year 11 and 12 to do a form of religion. If you don't, it's see you later. It's ridiculous. Don't want to burst your bubble mate, but Catholicism is a branch of Christianity - what the ***** sort of Catholic school would it be if they didn't teach Christianity you clown?
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OldPom wrote:I think we need to know where Kumara stands on this, in view of his great enthusiasm for Mr Palin, who favours Creationism for kids.Does he himself believe in Creationism.
Mighty Crow - what exactly was the point of your parody of my original posting? I'm afraid it rather escapes me. i think we need to know where kumara stands on dis, in view of is wicked enthusiasm fa mr palin, who digs creationism fa kids.does he imself believe in creationism. mighty crow - wot pacifically was da point of your parody of my original postin? me is afraid it ratha escapes me.
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OldPom wrote:
Assuming that this tendency is continuing, how do we account for it?
Quite simple. Australia has a large community of 'non-conformist' churches - baptists, pentecostals etc - the 'born again christian' types. Support for creationism tends to be higher within these churches than the other established types like Anglican or Catholic. Much of the creationist literature in the USA comes from groups with a similar outlook, and gets imported and adopted locally.
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DestructionInc wrote: and our private schools.
ahhh i went to a private school. We never were taught Creationism ...actually we topped the state in science. Nice little political rant though 
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Kumara, I'll debate Creationism vs Evolution with you any time you like. Although you talk of that controversy as if it were a matter of opinions, it isn't. It's a matter of facts. Either we and all other animals evolved, or we didn't. Either we are "designed" or we evolved through Natural Selection.
As I've said before, the Creationists never put forward any "evidence" as you are pleased to call it. All they do is try to pick holes in real science.
When you say your position is the same as Palin's, you are being disingenuous. She does not merely think Creationism should not be swept under the carpet, she believes it to be the true explanation. So, tell us, pray, do you believe we evolved, or do you believe we were specially created and designed? It's got to be one or the other.
As for the accusation that we notorious leftys employ name-calling, that's pretty good, coming from the person who just called me a Nazi!
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OldPom wrote:Kumara, I'll debate Creationism vs Evolution with you any time you like. Although you talk of that controversy as if it were a matter of opinions, it isn't. It's a matter of facts. Either we and all other animals evolved, or we didn't. Either we are "designed" or we evolved through Natural Selection.
As I've said before, the Creationists never put forward any "evidence" as you are pleased to call it. All they do is try to pick holes in real science.
When you say your position is the same as Palin's, you are being disingenuous. She does not merely think Creationism should not be swept under the carpet, she believes it to be the true explanation. So, tell us, pray, do you believe we evolved, or do you believe we were specially created and designed? It's got to be one or the other.
As for the accusation that we notorious leftys employ name-calling, that's pretty good, coming from the person who just called me a Nazi!
You are a nazi....well fascist to be more correct, but you know, thats what you get when you try to enforce your opinion onto others and try to hide other opinions from them...even more so children...You and your ilk are the most dangerous people on the planet...Did you know that Socialists during the 20th Century killed more people than religious people did in religious wars during the previous 20 centuries? I have evidence and examples to why i call you names. All you have is smears because you cant debate the topic....there is a difference. As to your request on debating creationism vs evolution...whats the point? I dont believe in creationism. I believe in the right to believe what you want without leftist morons who claim tolerance trying to take away the democratic right to debate(meaning get all information wether lefties think it is incorrect or not and make a decision on it for oneself). Like i said, if its so easy to debate...why not debate it? Why hide it so no one discusses it again? I look forward to your reply.
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Kumara, let's take this really really slow, so you'll grasp it. Evolution is not an "opinion", it's science.
It's the Creationists who want to impose their beliefs on others, and now they may well have an ally in the white house. Isn't that terrific?
Between you and your ranting and immature abuse, and some clown (who has now adopted a second identity - moderators please note) and who thinks it's funny to employ the kind of mockery they use in the school playground he so recently left, I've had it with this forum and the adolescent retards who infest it.
So you'll be glad to hear - I'm off.
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OldPom wrote:Kumara, let's take this really really slow, so you'll grasp it. Evolution is not an "opinion", it's science.
It's the Creationists who want to impose their beliefs on others, and now they may well have an ally in the white house. Isn't that terrific?
Between you and your ranting and immature abuse, and some clown (who has now adopted a second identity - moderators please note) and who thinks it's funny to employ the kind of mockery they use in the school playground he so recently left, I've had it with this forum and the adolescent retards who infest it.
So you'll be glad to hear - I'm off. God you are stupid. Evolution aka Darwins theory is still widely debated...Although i think it is correct, whats wrong with debate? Answer me that....You cant and you wont address it because you know it will show you up to be the intolerant one who wants his opinion to be the only opinion...typical socialist moron. Go away, democracy doesnt want you. The problem you have towards Palin is that she thinks debating an issues is fine where as you want only what you believe to be correct imposed on other.....and by the way...no where does she say she wants it imposed on others...she said "if it comes up in class, why not debate it". Nothing wrong there is there? Unless you dont like debate of course. Where do you stand on debate by the way? Good, run off...democracy is working fine in Australia. Stick to turning England into a country full of political bigotry.
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