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rabbitohs2005 wrote:
Tongue is not under-rated, I do not rate him, he doesnt have an attacking bone in his body, his game relies on his defence.
Just when you hadn't made a stupid comment for a couple days. Well done.
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rabbitohs2005 wrote:
Tongue is not under-rated, I do not rate him, he doesnt have an attacking bone in his body, his game relies on his defence.
They picked Wing on a number of reasons
1. Versatility (Hooker, Half, Five-Eighth)
2. Defence (One of the strongest defenders in the competition, his defensive reads are very good, as well as his one-on-one)
3. Exceptional Ball Runner (Best ball runner in the comp, his reaction of receiving a ball and putting on a step and or accelearation to break the line is just freakish)
4. International Experience, his composure and ability to perform under pressure is great.
5. Experienced Kicking Game, has played three key positions in his career, which a kicking game is involved, out of dummy half, at five-eighth and halfback.
Why they didnt pick Orford ?.
1. Stocky bloke, couldnt see him as any sort of versatile player, wouldnt be that effective at hooker and is fairly slow so not a great ball runner.
2. His individual defence isnt that flash as is much of the other halves of the competition.
Why Orford didnt get picked ahead of Cronk (who perhaps hasnt been that convincing) ?, Cronk would be invaluable with his combination with his fellow storm internationals.
Alan Tongue is very under-rated. He isn't a massive tryscorer (although in 2006 he was the raiders second top tryscorer), but he certainly is attacking minded, it's just that the raiders now have a lot of attacking players so he doesn't need to be as creative. He does for the raiders what the team needs him to do. You talk about Craig Wings versatility, well what about Tongue's. He can and has played second row, lock, hooker, five eighth and if he needed to I'm sure he could slot into the centres Defence, he is a wonderful defender. If Wing is the best ball runner in the comp then I'm Joan of Ark. When was his last international? If this is the critera then why don't we give Langlands a call and get him to pull on the aussie jersey. International experience doesn't mean much when it was 5 years ago. He has a decent kicking game, but it is woeful when compared to Orford's. Orford is leading the Dally M count. He has been the most consistent player this season. Wing has only played a handful of games and does not deserve to be in the top 46. I actually like Wing and certainly wouldn't knock him back from my club, but if I was picking the Australian team, Wing probably wouldn't make it if I was picking 100 blokes.
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purple patch wrote:over-mason and gasnier.
under-heighington and covell Pretty well proved i am right on the weekend 
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Quinn and Turner are massively underrated.
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Kenny Rogers wrote:Quinn and Turner are massively underrated.
I hope you're taking the *****.
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Lance Hohaia is slowly drifting from the over-rated catergory to the under-rated gatergory.
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peopleschamp7 wrote:Lance Hohaia is slowly drifting from the over-rated catergory to the under-rated gatergory. I've always rated him very highly! Sadly he has never really delivered at international level though. Had a shocker in the ANZAC test.
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Champion_man wrote:
I've always rated him very highly! Sadly he has never really delivered at international level though. Had a shocker in the ANZAC test.
He's the type of player that needs to be given a regular starting spot,in order for him to fully play to his potential. I think the best thing Ivan could do is give him regular game time and build his confidence up,because he's pretty hot when he's playing with confidence.
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underrated (over the recent weeks definately) would be campese
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Cronk'sArmy wrote:Overrated: Tupou, Mason, Hoffman at the moment
Underrated: Heighington and the whole Canberra team I still stand by this
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SBW wrote:
Paul Gallen is one of the most hardworking forwards in the game
X2  Overrated: Carl Webb and Hannant. 
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Lachy wrote:
So true. I might as well say,
Over-roosters(most of the players)
Under-Raiders(most of the players)
How right am I?  Raiders pounded panthers. Roosters upseted to Eels.
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Paul Gallen ran for over 200m and made close to 40 tackles.....grubby he might be, over rated I think not.
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ratm wrote:X2 Overrated: Carl Webb and Hannant. How is Hannant overrated? Not many people rate him for one. He always steps up and plays his role when called upon. Does the job week in week out for the broncs...30 tackles in the first half last week against the warriors. Came on and absolutely blitzed it off the bench in the origin this year. Sure Gallen is a hard worker but he is an absolute disgrace to the club at the moment. Keeps talking about how is he going to sort out his game but never follows through with anything he says. I have no doubt he is a fairly decent bloke off the field but when he hits the paddock he is a dead set grub. What is his average penalty count for a game...would have to be at least 2 most games?
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pimpmaster wrote:Paul Gallen ran for over 200m and made close to 40 tackles.....grubby he might be, over rated I think not. The amount of s*hit he gets in and amount of penalties he gives away has to negate at least 25% of his contribution.
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pimpmaster wrote:Paul Gallen ran for over 200m and made close to 40 tackles.....grubby he might be, over rated I think not. He played the rabbits. Most fowards should eat heaps of meters aganist them, knights had heaps when they played them. But I dont think he Very overrated, but mason's more overrated.
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Valleysearch wrote:
How is Hannant overrated?
Not many people rate him for one. He always steps up and plays his role when called upon. Does the job week in week out for the broncs...30 tackles in the first half last week against the warriors. Came on and absolutely blitzed it off the bench in the origin this year.
Sure Gallen is a hard worker but he is an absolute disgrace to the club at the moment. Keeps talking about how is he going to sort out his game but never follows through with anything he says. I have no doubt he is a fairly decent bloke off the field but when he hits the paddock he is a dead set grub. What is his average penalty count for a game...would have to be at least 2 most games?
For his and your point, hannent can be overated, cos he plays for QLD. But I dont reackon hes rated too.....but meh, who cares.
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He didn't make the top 40 of the Aussie squad and England knocked him back also...in my books that means the people who matter (selectors) don't rate him.
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Valleysearch wrote:
How is Hannant overrated?
Not many people rate him for one. He always steps up and plays his role when called upon. Does the job week in week out for the broncs...30 tackles in the first half last week against the warriors. Came on and absolutely blitzed it off the bench in the origin this year.
Sure Gallen is a hard worker but he is an absolute disgrace to the club at the moment. Keeps talking about how is he going to sort out his game but never follows through with anything he says. I have no doubt he is a fairly decent bloke off the field but when he hits the paddock he is a dead set grub. What is his average penalty count for a game...would have to be at least 2 most games?
The grub tag is silly in the extreme – he's simply a tough forward doing his job.
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ratm wrote:The grub tag is silly in the extreme – he's simply a tough forward doing his job. He's definitely a grub. Gives away lots of unnecessary penalties that aren't tough, but just dirty.
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