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Poll Question : How long until interchange rules are relaxed? (Poll is closed)
Choice Votes Statistics
1-2 weeks 13 72 %
3-5 weeks 4 22 %
Until the end of the season 1 5 %
A couple of years 0 0 %
It's here to stay and will be patrolled like hell 0 0 %

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Sul Z
Posted: Friday, May 16, 2008 12:00:35 PM
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With the AFL bringing in new interchange rules, a holding area and extra stewards, I think it's an overreaction to an insignificant problem.

I think the AFL will make a big thing out of this for a couple of weeks and then, although the extra measurea will stay in place, players, clubs and the AFL will relax. As I see it, its extra red tape for 99% of the AFL players and on-field officials, sparked by one incident, which in my opinion the mistake had no effect on the match result whatsoever.
Sul Z
Posted: Saturday, May 17, 2008 2:16:11 AM
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Friday night's match between St Kilda and Collingwood proved my point.
proka123
Posted: Saturday, May 17, 2008 8:32:38 AM
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Yeah they've gone over the top with this one, with the north v swans debarcle about the 19th man, the afls all of sudden taken action in a pointless way, one game and they start this interchange shi.t, if the side puts a 19th man on somewhat by accident, just give them a fine.


Not happy with it!Evil or Very Mad
juzzybart
Posted: Saturday, May 17, 2008 8:50:52 AM
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proka123 wrote:
Yeah they've gone over the top with this one, with the north v swans debarcle about the 19th man, the afls all of sudden taken action in a pointless way, one game and they start this interchange shi.t, if the side puts a 19th man on somewhat by accident, just give them a fine.


Not happy with it!Evil or Very Mad

Im sure that tune will change if what happened in the north v sydney game happened in a grand final... A fine is nothing! Could you imagine the implications? It would get very messy,
proka123
Posted: Saturday, May 17, 2008 9:50:57 AM
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meh, in a game i dont really focus on the interchange, i just said it IMO
Sul Z
Posted: Sunday, May 18, 2008 8:13:22 PM
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I'm dreading next round and seeing teams score easy goals. What a load of crock from the AFL.
emirates
Posted: Monday, May 19, 2008 10:53:53 AM
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The should have left it the way it was - BUT if something was wrong (such as the swans game, when the steward KNEW AT THE TIME) then pay the kick and 50 m penalty

EDIT or at least get rid of the need for the post it notes they have to hand in everytime
ossie
Posted: Monday, May 19, 2008 11:05:04 AM
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I didn't realise till Friday night that every player had to be "signed" on or off the field.

I have a simple suggestion: Teams are issued with 4 electronic devices each which must be held in the hand by interchange players within the interchange area. When a player is interchanged, the player coming on hands the device to the player coming off (like a relay baton). If the device goes outside the interchange area, or falls to the ground it emits a buzzer, and a free kick can be awarded by the emergency umpire. Should be pretty easy to implement, and is fairly foolproof.
RabidCamel
Posted: Monday, May 19, 2008 11:49:37 AM
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ossie wrote:
I didn't realise till Friday night that every player had to be "signed" on or off the field.

I have a simple suggestion: Teams are issued with 4 electronic devices each which must be held in the hand by interchange players within the interchange area. When a player is interchanged, the player coming on hands the device to the player coming off (like a relay baton). If the device goes outside the interchange area, or falls to the ground it emits a buzzer, and a free kick can be awarded by the emergency umpire. Should be pretty easy to implement, and is fairly foolproof.


Geez I hope that there's discretion for the emergency umpire. Surely there would be. What if it gets dropped as it's handed to the player? Does he just blow his whistle straight away, or does he check to see what happened? What happens with the advantage rule? Is it his call as to whether there's advantage when it happens or is it the field umpires? What if a goal has just been kicked? Does that mean there's another shot from the goalsquare?

I am concerned. I hope it will sort itself out but I would hate to see a game decided on this.
ossie
Posted: Monday, May 19, 2008 11:52:45 AM
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RabidCamel wrote:


Geez I hope that there's discretion for the emergency umpire. Surely there would be. What if it gets dropped as it's handed to the player? Does he just blow his whistle straight away, or does he check to see what happened? What happens with the advantage rule? Is it his call as to whether there's advantage when it happens or is it the field umpires? What if a goal has just been kicked? Does that mean there's another shot from the goalsquare?

I am concerned. I hope it will sort itself out but I would hate to see a game decided on this.


Yeah, what I was getting at was there needs to be some way to stop players just tossing the device on the ground, and running onto the playing area. Maybe the buzzer has to sound for a few seconds before a free kick is paid? It would be like any free kick paid "off the ball" (Eg holding behind play at a centre bounce), ... the umpires need to confer and agree where and when the free should be paid. It won't happen very often.
RabidCamel
Posted: Monday, May 19, 2008 11:54:30 AM
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ossie wrote:


Yeah, what I was getting at was there needs to be some way to stop players just tossing the device on the ground, and running onto the playing area. Maybe the buzzer has to sound for a few seconds before a free kick is paid? It would be like any free kick paid "off the ball" (Eg holding behind play at a centre bounce), ... the umpires need to confer and agree where and when the free should be paid. It won't happen very often.


Hehe, whoops. I misread your post, and thought that WAS going to happen. Eeep. Most of my points didn't relate to that, though. But I imagine if that was the case one of the stewards would be able to alert the ump.
Sul Z
Posted: Monday, May 19, 2008 12:05:37 PM
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In every game i watched over the weekend, the broadcasters all identified at least one incident from either side that would eventuate in a goal.

I think the buzzer idea has merit given what the AFL has dreamt up and rapidly put into place without the proper protocol being followed. However I don't think the game needs any of this. It wasn't really broken to begin with, and now they've fixed it up something chronic.

Anything classic example of the AFL overreacting and making the game harder for fans to watch.
podgy15
Posted: Monday, May 19, 2008 12:21:15 PM
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This whole interchange debacle has been absolutely blown out of proportion. How hard is it to keep a record of how many men are on the field!?!?! I mean, one runs off, one runs on, how hard is it? ALL AFL clubs need to step back and try not to think about it too much and just let it flow for christs sake. I heard there were bloody 5, yes FIVE AFL officials, keeping track of the whole thing down on the bench. That is laughable!Laughing Laughing
walshy17
Posted: Monday, May 19, 2008 1:22:18 PM
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why watse money on extra stewards for such a simple concept when you could use the money to improve the game and put an extra umpire on the field.... just a thought.
Gooner
Posted: Monday, May 19, 2008 1:35:09 PM
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the next round of footy may go down in history people....get ready for it

the rule change was a knee jerk reaction to a minor problem

what happens when Judd takes himself off and his tagger goes with him and both teams infringe?
ossie
Posted: Monday, May 19, 2008 1:58:33 PM
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walshy17 wrote:
why watse money on extra stewards for such a simple concept when you could use the money to improve the game and put an extra umpire on the field.... just a thought.


Make up your mind ... do you want to improve the game or put an extra umpire on the field? These objectives are mutually exclusive!
walshy17
Posted: Monday, May 19, 2008 2:07:05 PM
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well i think the game that was umpired best this year was the tribute match, which amazingly had 4 umpires. coincidence it hink not
ossie
Posted: Monday, May 19, 2008 2:08:52 PM
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walshy17 wrote:
well i think the game that was umpired best this year was the tribute match, which amazingly had 4 umpires. coincidence it hink not


Maybe it was "umpired best" because it was such a soft contest with no physical pressure on either side. Maybe nobody cared who won or lost, so the bad umpiring decisions went unnoticed?
Sul Z
Posted: Monday, May 19, 2008 2:15:15 PM
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ossie wrote:


Maybe it was "umpired best" because it was such a soft contest with no physical pressure on either side. Maybe nobody cared who won or lost, so the bad umpiring decisions went unnoticed?


I don't think the contest was soft nor no physical pressure, rather the players and the umpires were more relaxed. That was the key to seeing a game flow and let the players play. You see it week in week out in the SANFL.

Point being though, SANFL doesn't have ridiculous interchange rules and hopefully never will. The AFL does and i dont think it will be too long before it gets relaxed or reverted back. Stupid.
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