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RE : CLUB WAUGH RACING Options
Porkpiehat
Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 1:30:15 PM
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Going by what I have read in this thread it seems one of the biggest problems CW has is transparency in its financial dealings.In my experience as an owner of trotters and greyhounds over the years ,irregardless of the size of the operation ,I always recieved a detailed account for the month explaining costs incurred. CW could have done the same thing and posted it on its website in the members section monthly for the various clubs. This would have shown what we were paying for and probably helped them explain what they were spending our money on. As it stands now , we have a vague yearly finacial account which is VERY broad in its explanation. No wonder people are suspicious!With the 3 syndicates I would imagine at least 1.5 million has been invested and even though the individual outlay was relativley small , the bottom line is quite large.
If any outside media do get involved I hope they are impartial because the racing game can be a very closed shop and the likes of people like us are being treated as outsiders with no need to know what is going on. Because of this I dont hold much hope of a positive outcome in our favour but at least this thread will bring the shoddyness of CW to other peoples attention!
Evil or Very Mad
PS Never again with CW.
Porkpiehat
Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 1:37:43 PM
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Ps Divide the number of starts for CW horses into the money invested.(All 3 clubs)!
Porkpiehat
Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 7:14:23 PM
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This is something i found on another forum talking about CW

"Originally posted by The Insider

What are they then? If it looks like a syndicate & smells like a syndicate, then ................................... This is not putting syndicators as a group

Reply:
they are a club, insider, and are not goverened by the same rules and regulations as are AFS licence holders like myself, Ken King, Denise Martin, Lawton etc"

If this is the case it may explain a lot of things.
bsb raiderman
Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 7:56:11 PM
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Porkpiehat wrote:
This is something i found on another forum talking about CW

"Originally posted by The Insider

What are they then? If it looks like a syndicate & smells like a syndicate, then ................................... This is not putting syndicators as a group

Reply:
they are a club, insider, and are not goverened by the same rules and regulations as are AFS licence holders like myself, Ken King, Denise Martin, Lawton etc"

If this is the case it may explain a lot of things.


Robert Raulston has a licence.
wrenchie_5
Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 8:17:16 PM
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Porkpiehat wrote:
Ps Divide the number of starts for CW horses into the money invested.(All 3 clubs)!


cwr 3....harrykay-----9 starts
majestic gem----4 starts
purrfect dancer----1 start
paw the drinks-----0 starts

14 starts in just over 2 years.
Porkpiehat
Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 8:35:01 PM
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CW No 2 (Three years)
Kelendria 0 starts
Scooter 0 starts
King Armstrong 0 starts
Bumpa 18 starts

(All are race starts) Sad
Porkpiehat
Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 8:39:25 PM
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CW No1
Through the field 18 starts
Mr Gilly 13 starts
The fangsta 30 starts
Stakes are high 17 starts

(All obviously overraced)Laughing
Porkpiehat
Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 8:43:20 PM
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Approx $14000 per start
Porkpiehat
Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 8:50:59 PM
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Is there anybody on this forum from CW that has been to the stables?
buddylove
Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:54:56 PM
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Porkpiehat wrote:
CW No 2 (Three years)
Kelendria 0 starts
Scooter 0 starts
King Armstrong 0 starts
Bumpa 18 starts

(All are race starts) Sad


(groan)
Porkpiehat
Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:05:03 PM
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CW 1 Prizemoney $121120

CW2 prizemoney $30300

CW3 Prizemoney $161990

Shock
buddylove
Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:06:02 PM
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Porkpiehat wrote:
CW 1 Prizemoney $121120

CW2 prizemoney $30300

CW3 Prizemoney $161990

Shock


And if memory serves, CWR2 paid a fair bit more than the other 2. just our luck
Porkpiehat
Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:08:48 PM
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Going by this all syndicates already can go longer than their expected life. Not to mention the money that was recieved from EI.(CHAPS payments)Plus CW2 sold 2 horses!
The money invested was for 3 years - any prizemoney was a bonus!!!
Evil or Very Mad
Porkpiehat
Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:09:41 PM
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CW 3 = $990 for 3 years
buddylove
Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:15:00 PM
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Porkpiehat wrote:
This is something i found on another forum talking about CW

"Originally posted by The Insider

What are they then? If it looks like a syndicate & smells like a syndicate, then ................................... This is not putting syndicators as a group

Reply:
they are a club, insider, and are not goverened by the same rules and regulations as are AFS licence holders like myself, Ken King, Denise Martin, Lawton etc"

If this is the case it may explain a lot of things.


What forum is this, id love to read
Porkpiehat
Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:16:40 PM
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Thoroughbred village.
Porkpiehat
Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:17:11 PM
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Search for club waugh
Porkpiehat
Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:18:02 PM
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Its like Chicken man - Hes everywhere!
buddylove
Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:23:35 PM
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Porkpiehat wrote:
Its like Chicken man - Hes everywhere!


Couldnt find the CW discussion, but thats an awesome forum

CrannyPetes even on there
Porkpiehat
Posted: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:27:05 PM
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Try searching for Topic: "Public Comments from syndicate members"
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