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kremmen
Posted: Thursday, September 11, 2008 3:49:09 PM
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OldPom wrote:
Stop ignoring my question, you guys. Why DOES Australia produce so few top-notch boxers?


unfortunately boxing isnt that big in australia with AFL, League, Cricket, Union and Soccer all way ahead in areas of participation.

You have 10 times our population, but you dont have 10 times as many athletes, Now go take a bath soapdodger.
kremmen
Posted: Thursday, September 11, 2008 3:55:14 PM
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usherprince wrote:


Because your post was obviously just an attempt to stir. Obviously you're knowledge of australian boxing, or boxing in general, is quite limited.
Australian world boxing champs (in last 5yrs):
Ndou, Tyszu, Green, Mundine, Darchinyan, St Clair, Pedan
And in a few years you can add Billy Dib to that


Willie Kickett is better than Dib and will get a title before him
Unstable
Posted: Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:31:23 PM
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Billy Dib clearly lost his last fight was given gift. Boxing is a very small sport in OZ.
usherprince
Posted: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:25:46 PM
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south01 wrote:
Man Hopoate is the real deal lets hope he continues and smashes some Yanks up,also Big Bob said he would knock him out then KO Solomon Hawatu then Ko Barry Hall lol
Well Big Bob got KO'd so now John is the Australian Heavyweight Champ good work Smile

Whoa whoa whoa. "the real deal"?? You obviosuly didn't see the fight. Mirovic out-box Hopoate for 6 of the 8 rounds (1st n last I gave to Hoppa). Beating Mirovic proves nothing. He is bordering on a 'joke' and should retire NOW.
Haumona, on the other hand, I really rate him, probably the only football player with potential to do something. And i think he would destroy Hopoate if they were to fight.

HR wrote:


that article doesnt state a key element in big bobs loss

the last 3 rounds he was fighting with left hand jab..... something was wrong with his right hand and he was leaving himself open not even defending himself


Good point, can't say i noticed that watching it live but now you pointed it out & watched the replay, perhaps he was injured.
Look this fight was never going to go the distance, from round 6 on it just became a slug fest and boxing technique was thrown out the window. Great fight from the entertainment perspective, but I wouldn't be showing any boxers wanting to learn to fight.
south01
Posted: Friday, September 12, 2008 8:50:46 AM
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usherprince wrote:


Good point, can't say i noticed that watching it live but now you pointed it out & watched the replay, perhaps he was injured.
Look this fight was never going to go the distance, from round 6 on it just became a slug fest and boxing technique was thrown out the window. Great fight from the entertainment perspective, but I wouldn't be showing any boxers wanting to learn to fight.
good guess i only did see the highlights,still he beat Big Bob which is no easy task but i have seen Soloman Homanu fight and that guy is going places and i agree he would smash Hoppa,bit bold saying he's the real deal i was excited ... Smile
HR
Posted: Friday, September 12, 2008 10:29:23 AM
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Unstable wrote:
Billy Dib clearly lost his last fight was given gift. Boxing is a very small sport in OZ.


yeh how rigged was that fight..... the south african cleary won it
kremmen
Posted: Friday, September 12, 2008 10:31:23 AM
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usherprince wrote:


Good point, can't say i noticed that watching it live but now you pointed it out & watched the replay, perhaps he was injured.
Look this fight was never going to go the distance, from round 6 on it just became a slug fest and boxing technique was thrown out the window. Great fight from the entertainment perspective, but I wouldn't be showing any boxers wanting to learn to fight.


Heavyweights in oz are not great - kali meehan is probably the best, haumono is overrated + he has a case of the mundines - doesn't fight anyone then when he does he fights bums.

mirovic broke his arm in the 6th round i think you'll find.
OldPom
Posted: Friday, September 12, 2008 11:43:30 AM
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usherprince - I was thinking of professional champions, which not all of those guys are, or were. Besides, of the seven names you mention, we see a Russian, an African, an Armenian, and a guy from Guyana!
HR
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i just saw in today's paper the x-ray of mirovic's arm

absolutely snapped it

he fought the last 3 rounds like that, couldnt even lift his arm to defend what eventually knocked him out..... the left hook of hoppas
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Posted: Friday, September 12, 2008 12:09:08 PM
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Haumono is a ko specialist the yank he fought was no bum. A couple more Quality opponents to get more rounds in him and he could be a top ten
usherprince
Posted: Friday, September 12, 2008 3:09:29 PM
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Megadeecee wrote:
Haumono is a ko specialist the yank he fought was no bum. A couple more Quality opponents to get more rounds in him and he could be a top ten


yeh if haumono actually puts in the effort he has the makings to be a top heavyweight. Not just Australia, but worldwide, the heavyweight division is the weakest its been in a long while.

OldPom wrote:

usherprince - I was thinking of professional champions, which not all of those guys are, or were. Besides, of the seven names you mention, we see a Russian, an African, an Armenian, and a guy from Guyana!

mate get your facts right all of those mentioned where Professional World Champions (except Ndou, he was interim i think). The title 'World Champion' is thrown around losely these days, but the fact is they WERE/ARE pro world champs.
Oh and I would not be talking about nationalities of Australian boxers, when "Englands" most recent world champ Howard Eastman is South America
OldPom
Posted: Friday, September 12, 2008 11:08:52 PM
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On the question of nationality, this is not a matter for slanging matches, but of facts. You will never find me claiming someone as British if they aren't. OK, Eastman is South American. That has nothing to do with the nationality of the boxers you mentioned.
As for the status, yes, I misread the Boxrec pages and got it wrong.
But my original query stands. There have apparently been only 16 Australian World Champs ever, which doesn't seem many in about a hundred years.
kremmen
Posted: Saturday, September 13, 2008 1:01:17 PM
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OldPom wrote:
On the question of nationality, this is not a matter for slanging matches, but of facts. You will never find me claiming someone as British if they aren't. OK, Eastman is South American. That has nothing to do with the nationality of the boxers you mentioned.
As for the status, yes, I misread the Boxrec pages and got it wrong.
But my original query stands. There have apparently been only 16 Australian World Champs ever, which doesn't seem many in about a hundred years.


its a matter of population and geography, unlike in the UK where there are many countries within a short distance, in Australia u can drive for 10 hours and still be in the same state therefore giving limited opportunities for fights with the money on offer.

boxing isn't even in the top ten of australian sports and with only around 200 registered fighters in australia I'd say we are doing pretty well....
Megadeecee
Posted: Sunday, September 14, 2008 2:36:08 PM
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I See your point old pom but Australia is the last place to bag with your logic . Australia is Multi Cultural Like pomgolia. We buy the paper off an armenian. Get kicked out of the pub by a polynesian blah blah blah etc etc
Megadeecee
Posted: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:35:26 AM
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Manny vs Oscar manny going up from light to welterweight i think. both great in a era of Average Boxers imo . I am a manny fan
kremmen
Posted: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:02:46 PM
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Megadeecee wrote:
Manny vs Oscar manny going up from light to welterweight i think. both great in a era of Average Boxers imo . I am a manny fan


Oscar will be too big for manny, but manny is a legend.

Also, the only decent heavyweight australia has got, Kali Meehan, will be fighting "the beast from the east" Valuev in Sydney january next year.
usherprince
Posted: Friday, September 26, 2008 2:55:56 PM
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kremmen wrote:


Oscar will be too big for manny, but manny is a legend.

Also, the only decent heavyweight australia has got, Kali Meehan, will be fighting "the beast from the east" Valuev in Sydney january next year.


Are you serious?? Finally something to put Australia on the world heavyweight map!

Not so sure about Oscar, I haven't been too impressed by his last few fights, while Manny has been on fire recently. Probably the best form of his career
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Posted: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 1:18:46 PM
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Posted: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 1:21:18 PM
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south01
Posted: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 10:27:14 PM
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wow Mosley still has it what a legend!
He just has the timing down pack for the big punch and always has,see story below.


Mosley's last-second knockout

From correspondents in Los Angeles, California
September 28, 2008

AMERICAN Shane Mosley unleashed a devastating left hook to the head, knocking Ricardo Mayorga out with one second left in the 12th round of their non-title super welterweight fight.

The 37-year-old Mosley floored Mayorga twice in a final round demolition, clinching it with a flurry of punches in a temporary outdoor boxing ring at the Home Depot Centre.

He connected on a left-right combination for the first knockdown as Mayorga got up at the count of seven.

Nicaragua's Mayorga should have stayed down. Mosley (45-5, 38 KOs) waded in as the referee was finishing his count and decked Mayorga with a short left hook on the next punch.

“I closed the show,'' Mosley said of the fight between two former world champions. “I got the knockout.''

Mayorga, 35, pressed the attack in the first three rounds before Mosley took over. The turning point came in the sixth when Mosley landed several solid rights that hurt the unorthodox Mayorga who had a 10-pound weight advantage.

“I could feel him getting weaker,'' said Mosley of Mayorga who played to the pro-Mosley crowd despite getting noticeably weaker in the later rounds.

“He was trying to play like he was strong. He might have stole some rounds here and there but I wanted to go for the knockout.''

At least one of the ringside judge's didn't agree and had Mayorga ahead on points heading into the final round.

Mosley's last fight was in November of last year, when he dropped a 12-round unanimous decision to Miguel Cotto.

Mosley said despite some sloppy middle rounds he stuck to his game plan.

“Mayorga is tough,'' he said. “He took some good shots early but I knew I could wear him down.

“Early on I was trying to figure him out what he was doing. He was throwing crazy punches.''

In the co-main event, World Boxing Council welterweight champion Andre Berto was successful in his first title defence, earning a unanimous decision over Steve Forbes in an earlier bout.

The scores were 118-109, 118-109, 116-111 in favour of Berto (23-0, 19 KOs), who won the vacant belt on June 21 with a seventh-round technical knockout over Miguel Angel Rodriguez.

Forbes (33-7), who was coming off a unanimous-decision loss to Oscar De La Hoya, showed a good chin but never was able to get Berto in any serious trouble.

American Berto was a big favourite heading into the fight but had to go 12 rounds for the first time in his brief career.
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