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NatTheRat1
Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 4:15:19 PM
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deemac01 wrote:
well being sth african myself i reckon we should stick to rugby and cricket cos afl really does suck.


30,000 mate. Read it and weep.
geelongAREfootball
Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 4:15:44 PM
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deemac01 wrote:
well being sth african myself i reckon we should stick to rugby and cricket cos afl really does suck.


Which is your opinion, others have different opinions.
geelongAREfootball
Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 4:19:05 PM
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NatTheRat1 wrote:


30,000 mate. Read it and weep.


I hate to make you feel bad, but that still isnt all that much
NatTheRat1
Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 4:23:53 PM
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geelongAREfootball wrote:


I hate to make you feel bad, but that still isnt all that much


Maybe. But I'd say in a country where Rugby and Soccer dominate, and in the years coming up to the World Cup, it's significant.
geelongAREfootball
Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 4:30:48 PM
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NatTheRat1 wrote:


Maybe. But I'd say in a country where Rugby and Soccer dominate, and in the years coming up to the World Cup, it's significant.


Oh yes its significant. Im all for promoting the gains, but i dont think we should boast about anything until after the soccer world cup. After the soccer world cup has gone, and soccer has put back to normal in the newspapers, then we can start talking about how much football is being taken up by the loacls. Just my opinion though. It always seems like you are accusing people on the net hey....lol
NatTheRat1
Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 4:32:29 PM
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geelongAREfootball wrote:


Oh yes its significant. Im all for promoting the gains, but i dont think we should boast about anything until after the soccer world cup. After the soccer world cup has gone, and soccer has put back to normal in the newspapers, then we can start talking about how much football is being taken up by the loacls. Just my opinion though. It always seems like you are accusing people on the net hey....lol


Me? lol
geelongAREfootball
Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 4:41:07 PM
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NatTheRat1 wrote:


Me? lol



see...i told you...i was meaning everyone!! alot of posts are read in a way that sounds like the poster is accusing someone
NatTheRat1
Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 4:55:59 PM
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geelongAREfootball wrote:



see...i told you...i was meaning everyone!! alot of posts are read in a way that sounds like the poster is accusing someone


LOL

What are you saying???

Wink
Nickk
Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 6:39:53 PM
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Id hate to say this guys and ruin it for you, but AFL will never become big anywhere in the world...
It will only be big in Australia... As a south African said himself previously, they don't care about AFL...
The AFL should concentrate on making it right here, not having some kids participate in a kick around which means nothing to them..
AFL continues to be an unfair competition, we should look at extending the season so everyone plays each other twice throughout the year.. 16 teams does not go with 22 games..

AFL should not worry about trying to make this big in other countries, b/c it WILL NEVER happen... make the game even better here, that should be the plan...
NatTheRat1
Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 7:12:18 PM
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Nickk wrote:

Id hate to say this guys and ruin it for you, but AFL will never become big anywhere in the world...
It will only be big in Australia... As a south African said himself previously, they don't care about AFL...
The AFL should concentrate on making it right here, not having some kids participate in a kick around which means nothing to them..
AFL continues to be an unfair competition, we should look at extending the season so everyone plays each other twice throughout the year.. 16 teams does not go with 22 games..

AFL should not worry about trying to make this big in other countries, b/c it WILL NEVER happen... make the game even better here, that should be the plan...


Mate, I don't know which crystal ball you are looking into, but the statement I highlighted is patently unable to be supported, simply because you don't know the future. You can predict it. You can have an opinion. But your opinion has to be supportable or it will fall down on the notion of 'proof'. I don't mean to sound pedantic or like I'm talking down to you (***k I sound like Raven lol), but none of us ACTUALLY KNOWS what the future holds. In the future, if a whole bunch of dominoes falls their way, Australian Rules Football might actually take off in South Africa. Or another country. It might also take 100 years.

Only one thing is certain. If the idea is NOT explored, it WON'T happen.

And there is no evidence that the AFL 'cannot' grow the game both here, and overseas, at the same time.
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Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 7:30:59 PM
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Mate, I don't know which crystal ball you are looking into, but the statement I highlighted is patently unable to be supported, simply because you don't know the future. You can predict it. You can have an opinion. But your opinion has to be supportable or it will fall down on the notion of 'proof'. I don't mean to sound pedantic or like I'm talking down to you (***k I sound like Raven lol), but none of us ACTUALLY KNOWS what the future holds. In the future, if a whole bunch of dominoes falls their way, Australian Rules Football might actually take off in South Africa. Or another country. It might also take 100 years.

Only one thing is certain. If the idea is NOT explored, it WON'T happen.

And there is no evidence that the AFL 'cannot' grow the game both here, and overseas, at the same time.


I see that you have looked into the AFL's crystal ball which predicted that 30,000 kids will participate in Auskick by the year 2009... Very believable b/c it has come from the AFL so you read it and weeped...

So what proof do you have that 30,000 will participate and the sport will be huge all over the world b/c the AFL says so... nothing... apart from some c.rap stories in papers that believe AFL is the only football around...

The evidence that the AFL will not grow any further is that they are doing nothing to even up the competition, players continue to act unprofessional and do stupid things yet the AFL wouldn't have a clue what to do about it... That's just 2 major issues I think they need to concentrate on and improve.

that's just my opinion...
NatTheRat1
Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 7:33:01 PM
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Nickk wrote:


I see that you have looked into the AFL's crystal ball which predicted that 30,000 kids will participate in Auskick by the year 2009... Very believable b/c it has come from the AFL so you read it and weeped...

So what proof do you have that 30,000 will participate and the sport will be huge all over the world b/c the AFL says so... nothing... apart from some c.rap stories in papers that believe AFL is the only football around...

The evidence that the AFL will not grow any further is that they are doing nothing to even up the competition, players continue to act unprofessional and do stupid things yet the AFL wouldn't have a clue what to do about it... That's just 2 major issues I think they need to concentrate on and improve.

that's just my opinion...


You're right. Shoot me now.
geelongAREfootball
Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 7:45:58 PM
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About the future. I could predict something as follows.... By the time of 2048, soccer violence in Italy had reached such heights that the government were forced to act. They were forced to act because of the violent sniper massacre of the visiting EPL champion Huddersfield after Juventus were beaten 3-0 in a quarter final. They were forced to act because the Juventus cheer squad security team were threatening to use their lasser guns to attack the Serie A headquarters if they were relegated. The government today released a statement from its underground bunker stating that they would ban soccer in schools and on FTA tv, and that all games would take place in the heavily fortifified anti-missile protected ***** Smith Stadium. They announced a plan to introduce a compulsory Aussieball program to enable the country to compete against the current champions England in the upcoming International Cup.

You never know it could happen!!
Nickk
Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 8:54:57 PM
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geelongAREfootball wrote:
About the future. I could predict something as follows.... By the time of 2048, soccer violence in Italy had reached such heights that the government were forced to act. They were forced to act because of the violent sniper massacre of the visiting EPL champion Huddersfield after Juventus were beaten 3-0 in a quarter final. They were forced to act because the Juventus cheer squad security team were threatening to use their lasser guns to attack the Serie A headquarters if they were relegated. The government today released a statement from its underground bunker stating that they would ban soccer in schools and on FTA tv, and that all games would take place in the heavily fortifified anti-missile protected ***** Smith Stadium. They announced a plan to introduce a compulsory Aussieball program to enable the country to compete against the current champions England in the upcoming International Cup.

You never know it could happen!!


Yeah it could...
now let me suggest that you ask your parents to again put you on some medication b/c you have lost the plot...
geelongAREfootball
Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 9:47:11 PM
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Nickk wrote:


Yeah it could...
now let me suggest that you ask your parents to again put you on some medication b/c you have lost the plot...


I was merely reinforcing the view that the future is unpredicatable, but there are events which set things on their path. Like the AFL in SA, and the italian soccer riots.
boyo
Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2008 10:13:11 PM
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geelongAREfootball wrote:
The AFL are going to a great extent to spread football into South Africa. It looks like they have a very good plan working out.
Football is slowly but surely becoming an international sport once again.

http://www.worldfootynews.com/article.php/20080119011137268


Again????
Nickk
Posted: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:28:41 AM
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geelongAREfootball wrote:


I was merely reinforcing the view that the future is unpredicatable, but there are events which set things on their path. Like the AFL in SA, and the italian soccer riots.


You are a complete idiot.... what's Italian soccer riots got to do with AFL trying to introduce aussie rules to South Africa... (stop trying to bring other sports down just b/c the sport you may like is less superior)...
It will fail just like the experiment with the Irish b/c AFL will never be big outside of Australia...
That's just something you will have to get used to b/c it seems that you believe it will soon be the biggest sport in the world... no chance of that ever happening (no crystal balls required)...

NatTheRat1
Posted: Monday, February 04, 2008 12:33:35 AM
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Nickk wrote:


You are a complete idiot.... what's Italian soccer riots got to do with AFL trying to introduce aussie rules to South Africa... (stop trying to bring other sports down just b/c the sport you may like is less superior)...
It will fail just like the experiment with the Irish b/c AFL will never be big outside of Australia...
That's just something you will have to get used to b/c it seems that you believe it will soon be the biggest sport in the world... no chance of that ever happening (no crystal balls required)...



Nickk, Nickk, Nickk... Please point out where anyone has ever tried to argue for or against the statements I have highlighted. Then we'll have a little talk.
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Nickk wrote:


You are a complete idiot.... what's Italian soccer riots got to do with AFL trying to introduce aussie rules to South Africa... (stop trying to bring other sports down just b/c the sport you may like is less superior)...
It will fail just like the experiment with the Irish b/c AFL will never be big outside of Australia...
That's just something you will have to get used to b/c it seems that you believe it will soon be the biggest sport in the world... no chance of that ever happening (no crystal balls required)...



I can't believe you are saying that based on the Irish series the game will never grow nor be popular any where else especially when you consider that the Irish games are not a real sport but a hybrid of two different codes. There seems to be some interest in South Africa and it would be silly for the AFL to ignore it. Will Aussie Rules ever knock Soccer off as the most popular code across the world no it won't but that doesn't mean they can't try and spread the code to other countries.
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thecolosseum wrote:


I can't believe you are saying that based on the Irish series the game will never grow nor be popular any where else especially when you consider that the Irish games are not a real sport but a hybrid of two different codes. There seems to be some interest in South Africa and it would be silly for the AFL to ignore it. Will Aussie Rules ever knock Soccer off as the most popular code across the world no it won't but that doesn't mean they can't try and spread the code to other countries.


It's not all just based on the Irish Series... As I've pointed out previously, Aussie Rules needs to get its act together here prior to thinking it can make it big in another country...
It is more silly that the AFL ignores problems that exist in the game...

As for the different codes thing, I know aussie rules will never be bigger than soccer.. It's just stupid how some people (geelong girl) believe that soccer riots have anything to do with AFL in SA...

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