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NatTheRat1
Posted: Saturday, February 09, 2008 5:03:57 PM
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ifnot4me wrote:
http://aflsouthafrica.wordpress.com/2007/07/02/costa-logistics-launch-footywild-in-johannesburg-township/

"The Costa Logistics partnership is a National sponsorship arrangement extending across the four Provinces in which AFL South Africa is now working. The three year commitment, valued at approximately 3.6 million Rand, will provide participation opportunities for over 16,000 FootyWild participants by the end of 2009."

yet 16 days latter the AFL doubles that figure

"The AFL believes it will produce about 30,000 participants between the ages of eight and 18 by the end of 2009."


it's just like the way they make you belive the health state the game is in ireland. but in the AFL 2007 international Census it shows only 110 people play the game


Whether you are prepared to go along with the ambitious figures of the body administering the sport, or whether you are hell bent on denigrating the effort put into it by playing with the figures in exactly the same way as you are accusing the AFL (ie: optimistic vs. pessimistic), it is still a sh.itload of interest. Even at your modest figure of 16,000, that is a significant number of participants and shows a willingness to become involved on both sides.

If the AFL is being unrealistically optimistic based on current word of mouth, on the ground in SA, then that will be borne out by the figures released not next year, but the year after. It seems a bit rich to be debating 'possible numbers vs probable numbers' when the actual figures won't be released for 2 years, and neither you nor anyone else here has any experience of what is actually going on. It's all speculation and if the AFL is talking it up, then so what? You think other organisations don't do the same thing to get as much publicity as they can?

So let's just assume for a moment that you are right and the figures have been inflated. It is still 16,000 young kids that are being exposed to a game they have never heard of or seen before. Even that pessimistic number is EXTRAORDINARY.

If the AFL believes it is on a winner, and starts pouring money into another country, in order to foster the beginnings of interest, then who are you to question it on the basis of numbers? You think they'd do it for nothing? You think they have more dollars than sense? If you do, then you are more of a numbskull than I thought you were lol.
ifnot4me
Posted: Sunday, February 10, 2008 7:25:14 PM
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So it's fine for the AFL to be optimistic, but when it come to other codes with figures much greater then those that aussie rules has in South Africa and with much greater progress already made everyone knocks there optimism. 8000 participants doesn't look so good when you compare it to the population in South Africa of 47,850,700.
geelongAREfootball
Posted: Sunday, February 10, 2008 7:36:42 PM
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ifnot4me wrote:
So it's fine for the AFL to be optimistic, but when it come to other codes with figures much greater then those that aussie rules has in South Africa and with much greater progress already made everyone knocks there optimism. 8000 participants doesn't look so good when you compare it to the population in South Africa of 47,850,700.


Football doesnt have much of a history anywhere else in the world because we have mainly been a country where migrants come to, not escape from. That is why we are excited about our code growing. We are finally realising its potential. Spreading the greatest game in the world, to the world one step at a time.
ossie
Posted: Monday, February 11, 2008 8:36:23 AM
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ifnot4me wrote:
http://aflsouthafrica.wordpress.com/2007/07/02/costa-logistics-launch-footywild-in-johannesburg-township/

"The Costa Logistics partnership is a National sponsorship arrangement extending across the four Provinces in which AFL South Africa is now working. The three year commitment, valued at approximately 3.6 million Rand, will provide participation opportunities for over 16,000 FootyWild participants by the end of 2009."

yet 16 days latter the AFL doubles that figure

"The AFL believes it will produce about 30,000 participants between the ages of eight and 18 by the end of 2009."


it's just like the way they make you belive the health state the game is in ireland. but in the AFL 2007 international Census it shows only 110 people play the game


Are you genuinely ignorant, or just a troll?

The 16,000 particpants is what comes from the Costa Logistics involvement. The 30,000 is the total figure for FootyWild. There is nothing inconsistent in these figures.
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