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Champion_man wrote:
I'll agree with soccer but not AFL. Its medically proven that hand-eye is harder to master than foot-eye coordination. AFL requires both.
Golf requires hand-eye but the ball you are hitting doesn't move, and the target you are aiming for doesn't move. Removing 2 key elements of hand-eye coordination. Thus it requires less skill.
Ah, touché.
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Although the margin for error is greater in AFL. Make a minor mistake in golf and you're up the proverbial creek.
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Champion_man wrote:
Although the margin for error is greater in AFL. Make a minor mistake in golf and you're up the proverbial creek.
Of course, which is why golf is so much harder to play. You need to have the right club, swing, hand-eye coordination, weather/wind sense, luck...
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yeh i play afl and have tried to play golf.....golf you have a much smaller margin for error like the dude said prior....afl requires alot of skill when it comes to hand eye, foot eye, aswell as physical endurance, however much larger margin for error....
to become good in golf requires alot of determination, aswell as a high tolerance of anger and frustration may i add lol
to conclude...its not an easy sport
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Champion_man wrote:Okay its not easy, but compared with other sports:
You don't really have an opposition. You are playing against yourself, and the course. Your game is not necessarily affected by your opponents (most of the time you aren't even aware of what they're doing).
It requires no fitness. Little strength. Not much hand-eye coordination.
You can play until you are 100.
Huh? That is one of the stupidest comments I have ever heard. yes, you are playing against yourself and the course. And 150 other blokes. You can go out and play off your face for 4 days straight - and still have absolutely no say whatsoever over the result if someone else happens to play better. It isn't like boxing or tennis where if you are going well, your opponent is automatically going bad. no hand-eye co-ordination? Whatever you say pal. When you can swing a 3-foot piece of steel with a finely-detailed head on it at a little ball that loves to swing from one side to another as hard as you can and not have to worry about hand-eye co-ordination, let me know.
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Champion_man wrote:
I'll agree with soccer but not AFL. Its medically proven that hand-eye is harder to master than foot-eye coordination. AFL requires both.
Golf requires hand-eye but the ball you are hitting doesn't move, and the target you are aiming for doesn't move. Removing 2 key elements of hand-eye coordination. Thus it requires less skill.
That's right - the target you are aiming for DOESN'T move, which means when you hit a $h1t shot, it syas $h1t. Not like in AFL where you can fvc.k up by kicking too far, too short, too left or too right, and the other player can still get to it.
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Phat wrote:
You can go out and play off your face for 4 days straight - and still have absolutely no say whatsoever over the result if someone else happens to play better.
Exactly my point. Your opposition is irrelevant. You don't change your tactics due to your opponents skill. You were either good enough or not, you didn't have to adapt to beat your opponent. Phat wrote:
When you can swing a 3-foot piece of steel with a finely-detailed head on it at a little ball that loves to swing from one side to another as hard as you can and not have to worry about hand-eye co-ordination, let me know.
Dude, pretty sure the golf ball doesn't move? What drugs are you on? Trying to hit it whilst its still rolling?
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golf is easy,anyone can play this sport
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Dude, pretty sure the golf ball doesn't move? What drugs are you on? Trying to hit it whilst its still rolling?
When did I say that it moves before you hit it dumbass? Once you hit it, the slightest non-flush contact makes the ball MOVE ALL OVER THE PLACE IN THE AIR. If you couldn't grasp that, I don't what personal evidence you are basing your whole assessment on. And of course you have to adapt to beat your opponent. Do you think that if the guy immediately behind you on the leaderboard is tearing up the course that you just go about your business and try and shoot par? You clearly have absolutely no idea about the game so I don't know why you are bothering.
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willie wonka wrote:golf is easy,anyone can play this sport Well why aren't you out there making squillions of dollars? Why wasn't it you out there beating Greg Norman? Why don't the money-chasing giants of every other sport bar soccer and the three American sports (which along with MAYBE motor sport are the most lucrative) take up golf and dominate it if it is so easy? Why are the experts - who clearly know a lot less than you about sport obviously - nominating Tiger Woods as the greatest sportsman of all time? Oh that's right, because they know nothing and golf is just a pi$$ easy sport, abot which Willie Wonka knows so much more. How old are you? 7?
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Phat wrote:
When did I say that it moves before you hit it dumbass? Once you hit it, the slightest non-flush contact makes the ball MOVE ALL OVER THE PLACE IN THE AIR.
If you couldn't grasp that, I don't what personal evidence you are basing your whole assessment on.
And of course you have to adapt to beat your opponent.
Do you think that if the guy immediately behind you on the leaderboard is tearing up the course that you just go about your business and try and shoot par?
You clearly have absolutely no idea about the game so I don't know why you are bothering.
What rubbish. You clearly are a 16 year old private school boy. Go and sew some leather patches on your tweed jacket. Okay so you maybe play slightly defensively or aggressively. Most of the time you wont know how your opponent is going, how he hit his last shot, etc. Its not like tennis where you react to every shot he playss. Or AFL how strategically you adapt to every move your opponent (and opposing team) does. Its completely different. Its like a time trial in swimming or cycling. You go and do your best, but your opponent makes bugger all of a difference. Yes you compete against others, but really you just do your best and if its good enough to win, you win. If you choke, you choke. Mentally challenging yes, but your shots are not actually affected by your opponents - to a very minimal degree anyway.
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Champion_man wrote:
What rubbish. You clearly are a 16 year old private school boy. Go and sew some leather patches on your tweed jacket.
Okay so you maybe play slightly defensively or aggressively. Most of the time you wont know how your opponent is going, how he hit his last shot, etc. Its not like tennis where you react to every shot he playss. Or AFL how strategically you adapt to every move your opponent (and opposing team) does. Its completely different.
Its like a time trial in swimming or cycling. You go and do your best, but your opponent makes bugger all of a difference. Yes you compete against others, but really you just do your best and if its good enough to win, you win. If you choke, you choke. Mentally challenging yes, but your shots are not actually affected by your opponents - to a very minimal degree anyway.
 Lol @ the private school boy jibe - and the 16-year-old thing for that matter. I'd be doing pretty well to remember Norman's 93 Open Championship win over Mike Harwood as a 1-year-old wouldn't I. Like I said before. If golf is so easy, why are there only a handful of Australians making the enormous amounts of money on offer while thousands of footballers across the codes struggle to make what Tiger Woods makes in a week? Why is it that during any 'best ever sportsman' discussion, Jack Nicklaus and Tiger are always mentioned? Is it possible that EVERY MEDIA EXPERT IN THE WORLD is wrong and that you are right and the game is in fact a skill-less debacle? Athletics - run fast League - belt people and run fast Tennis - belt a ball Cricket - belt a ball AFL - kick a ball If you try hard enough you can bag any sport for being 'skill-less.' At the end of the day, until an ordinary bloke in front of a computer screen like yourself can go from being rubbish to wining million-dollar tournaments, you have no argument. I play football, I play cricket, I play tennis. But none of them compare to golf for toughness or skill. Why is it that I can win best and fairests at my footy club but can barely break 3 figures in golf on a regular basis despite trying for the best part of 20 years?
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Phat wrote: Lol @ the private school boy jibe - and the 16-year-old thing for that matter. I'd be doing pretty well to remember Norman's 93 Open Championship win over Mike Harwood as a 1-year-old wouldn't I. Like I said before. If golf is so easy, why are there only a handful of Australians making the enormous amounts of money on offer while thousands of footballers across the codes struggle to make what Tiger Woods makes in a week? Why is it that during any 'best ever sportsman' discussion, Jack Nicklaus and Tiger are always mentioned? Is it possible that EVERY MEDIA EXPERT IN THE WORLD is wrong and that you are right and the game is in fact a skill-less debacle? Athletics - run fast League - belt people and run fast Tennis - belt a ball Cricket - belt a ball AFL - kick a ball If you try hard enough you can bag any sport for being 'skill-less.' At the end of the day, until an ordinary bloke in front of a computer screen like yourself can go from being rubbish to wining million-dollar tournaments, you have no argument. I play football, I play cricket, I play tennis. But none of them compare to golf for toughness or skill. Why is it that I can win best and fairests at my footy club but can barely break 3 figures in golf on a regular basis despite trying for the best part of 20 years? You obviously suck at golf then. I can play 3 times a year and still stay under 3 figures comfortably. My point is nearly any elite athlete can be good at golf. Its not a demanding game. Tough to be right at the top yes, but not hard to be really good at. Could any golfer be good at any other sport? No? Could tennis players, cricketers, footy players etc be good at golf? Yes, plenty of them play off 1 or 2. Which is not good enough to be professional but pretty close. So is it hard to be good at? No.
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No sport is 'easy'. If you've got talent then it may appear easy to you, but to truly succeed is, of course, very hard.
As Sam Snead said, 'Golf and ***** are the two things you can enjoy in life without being good at.'
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Says him...
Golf and motorsports get the same slack. People think they're so easy to play and aren't really sports but they don't understand what really goes on.
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willie wonka wrote:golf is easy,anyone can play this sport You are correct Willie *****er, I think that applies to all sports , doesn't it (????) . As for the comment "easy" , you must be a very good player (not) .
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willie wonka wrote:golf is easy,anyone can play this sport But not anyone can master it. That's where this gets interesting.
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Champion_man wrote:
You obviously suck at golf then. I can play 3 times a year and still stay under 3 figures comfortably.
My point is nearly any elite athlete can be good at golf. Its not a demanding game. Tough to be right at the top yes, but not hard to be really good at.
Could any golfer be good at any other sport? No? Could tennis players, cricketers, footy players etc be good at golf? Yes, plenty of them play off 1 or 2. Which is not good enough to be professional but pretty close.
So is it hard to be good at? No.
That's because being good at a lot of those sports is a lot easier f you're naturally built for it, whereas in golf your physical shape is, to a large extent, irrelevant. Therefore, whereas a lot of golf players who aren't the size of Sonny Bill might find it difficult to play professional NRL, everyone has a fair crack at golf, it just requires a lot of practice.
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I've never played golf, but I do know many experts have said part of Tiger Woods' armoury is his physical condition. He is said to be perhaps the first top player to spend time in the gym and really pay attention to this side of his game.
But games of skill are funny things, aren't they? On the face of it, you'd think someone great at snooker ought to be able to perform at top level when they're about 60. It's not so very demanding in the purely physical sense, like swinging a golf club or rushing round a tennis court. But they can't.
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