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Unstable
Posted: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:29:32 PM
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Anyone see Mundine get dropped like a piece of *****, and he is calling out Winky and Pavlik and caling himself the greatest. What a dumb *****
usherprince
Posted: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:01:47 PM
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Unstable wrote:
Anyone see Mundine get dropped like a piece of *****, and he is calling out Winky and Pavlik and caling himself the greatest. What a dumb *****


Anyone also see Mundine get back up and completely dominate Crazy Kim (ranked in top 20) for the rest of the fight???

'Unstable', you're the dumb *****
Unstable
Posted: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:07:29 PM
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usherprince wrote:


Anyone also see Mundine get back up and completely dominate Crazy Kim (ranked in top 20) for the rest of the fight???

'Unstable', you're the dumb *****


Are you *****king alright man. Ranked top 20 in what?? Japan

Do you know who Winky and Pavlik are??? Mundine has taken us for a ride and rob Australian boxing fan dry. When is this punk going to fight in America. Oh wait NEVER. He thinks he will fight Calzaghe also when he is going to fight Roy Jones for millions. Pavlik and Winky would destroy Mundine,it's not funny. Mundine is a *****king joke and is a *****king bum dropping weight so he doesn't have to fight Kessler again.
usherprince
Posted: Friday, August 01, 2008 12:23:12 PM
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Unstable wrote:


Are you *****king alright man. Ranked top 20 in what?? Japan

Do you know who Winky and Pavlik are??? Mundine has taken us for a ride and rob Australian boxing fan dry. When is this punk going to fight in America. Oh wait NEVER. He thinks he will fight Calzaghe also when he is going to fight Roy Jones for millions. Pavlik and Winky would destroy Mundine,it's not funny. Mundine is a *****king joke and is a *****king bum dropping weight so he doesn't have to fight Kessler again.


"His opponent Crazy Kim is ranked in the top 20...of any organisation that matters. He is a man with 28 wins in 32 fights, winning 24 by knockout." - Herald Sun. 28 from 32

You are like all the 'part time' australian boxing supporters. Just because he wasn't a big name like Winky and Pavlik, doesn't mean he is not a good fighter. Every time Mundine beats someone, the media come out and say he is a bum/past his prime. (E.g. Echols 2003, Green 2006, Soliman 0Cool. Yet before each of these fights, each fighter was ranked in the top 10 in the world.
The reason Mundine can't fight big name fighters is because Mundine is a 'No-name' overseas. There would not be a lot of money in a Pavlik or co. fighting him.

And I don't know about your prediction that 'Winky' would destroy Mundine. Winky 5 years ago would have destroyed Mundine, but look at his last 5 fights. Mundine vs Winky would be a very close fight
Hopkins - Lost in 12
Quartey - Win in 12
Taylor - Draw
Soliman - Win in 12 (That fight was a very close one, yet Mundine comprehesively beat Soliman the last 2 times they fought)

Unstable
Posted: Friday, August 01, 2008 3:23:05 PM
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usherprince wrote:


"His opponent Crazy Kim is ranked in the top 20...of any organisation that matters. He is a man with 28 wins in 32 fights, winning 24 by knockout." - Herald Sun. 28 from 32

You are like all the 'part time' australian boxing supporters. Just because he wasn't a big name like Winky and Pavlik, doesn't mean he is not a good fighter. Every time Mundine beats someone, the media come out and say he is a bum/past his prime. (E.g. Echols 2003, Green 2006, Soliman 0Cool. Yet before each of these fights, each fighter was ranked in the top 10 in the world.
The reason Mundine can't fight big name fighters is because Mundine is a 'No-name' overseas. There would not be a lot of money in a Pavlik or co. fighting him.

And I don't know about your prediction that 'Winky' would destroy Mundine. Winky 5 years ago would have destroyed Mundine, but look at his last 5 fights. Mundine vs Winky would be a very close fight
Hopkins - Lost in 12
Quartey - Win in 12
Taylor - Draw
Soliman - Win in 12 (That fight was a very close one, yet Mundine comprehesively beat Soliman the last 2 times they fought)



I am a massive boxing fan. I think Mundine has the talent, but while is he still fighting in Oz. Winky is inactive for awhile and could get him to fight. How about strum in Germany. Why did he drop weight for??? He didn't want to fight Kessler again. That's a fact because Kessler was his mandatory. Mundine is a good fighter but never wil reach his full potential.
kremmen
Posted: Monday, August 04, 2008 5:26:36 PM
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usherprince wrote:


Anyone also see Mundine get back up and completely dominate Crazy Kim (ranked in top 20) for the rest of the fight???

'Unstable', you're the dumb *****


If Crazy Kim had of been a more experienced/better boxer, he would have followed up the left hook with right hook while mundine was standing stunned, then the fight would have been over in the third round.

Mundine just doesn't have the skills to compete in the elite, coz he doesn't fight the best - not paying out, just tellin the truth.

And there was no way Soliman V Wright was close. Soliman just throws lots of punches and is a very awkward fighter making it hard to look good against (mundine had fought him 3 times so knew what he was like), winky just stood there and still won easy.
usherprince
Posted: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:05:35 PM
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kremmen wrote:


If Crazy Kim had of been a more experienced/better boxer, he would have followed up the left hook with right hook while mundine was standing stunned, then the fight would have been over in the third round.

Mundine just doesn't have the skills to compete in the elite, coz he doesn't fight the best - not paying out, just tellin the truth.

And there was no way Soliman V Wright was close. Soliman just throws lots of punches and is a very awkward fighter making it hard to look good against (mundine had fought him 3 times so knew what he was like), winky just stood there and still won easy.


I'll admit Mundine doesn't fight the best, but for 2 reasons.
1. Most big name fighters overseas will not fight Mundine. He's not considered good enough to be in the elite, but he is not seen as an easy beat, he's in the middle. E.g. Why would Pavlik want to fight Mundine, when he could either fight a major name for million$$ of dollars, or a tune up fight against someone who he knew he would beat (e.g. Gary Lockett).
2. As much as he keeps saying he wants to fight overseas, it very hard for him (or any boxer) to turn down the $$$ he earns locally. If he fought Green again (and wins), it will prove nothing for his career, but will earn him a fortune (10 times more then if he fought overseas). Even Soliman III apparently earned him a million $.

I would love to see him fight a Pavlik, Hopkins or Taylor, but I am realistic and cannot see it happening, yet I can't blame him for it
OldPom
Posted: Monday, August 25, 2008 1:17:04 AM
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Considering Australian men seem to be quite macho, or at any rate talk that way, why is it Australia so seldom produces boxers of any note? I remember, the Hungarian-born British boxer Joe Bugner (most boring heavyweight ever) moved to Australia and did fairly well there. That must say something about Aussie boxing.
Megadeecee
Posted: Saturday, August 30, 2008 2:44:32 PM
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Why do We suck so much at the olympics who picks/trains these people.
walford
Posted: Saturday, August 30, 2008 5:35:36 PM
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Mundine has offered Peter Manfredo Jnr $100 000 for a fight in the U.S.

A convincing win against a fighter of the calibre of Manfredo will really boost the profile of 'The Man' in boxing heartland.
Megadeecee
Posted: Saturday, August 30, 2008 5:42:06 PM
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Yanks Wont have him because he rubbished america i think
usherprince
Posted: Sunday, August 31, 2008 3:46:08 PM
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walford wrote:
Mundine has offered Peter Manfredo Jnr $100 000 for a fight in the U.S.

A convincing win against a fighter of the calibre of Manfredo will really boost the profile of 'The Man' in boxing heartland.


Manfredo is an average boxer, and has done nothing of significance other then star on The Contender.
He's been spanked by Lacy & Calzaghe, and couldn't Sergio Mora even after 2 attempts.
The only reason it may raise Mundine profile in the US is because of the profile Manfredo's built from 'The Contender', and nothing to do with his 'calibre'
k.hunt
Posted: Monday, September 01, 2008 1:27:23 PM
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usherprince wrote:


Manfredo is an average boxer


indeed.
manfredo isnt much.

Megadeecee
Posted: Friday, September 05, 2008 1:32:09 PM
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Bob mirovic seen him(on tv) fight a fast yank in Aus years ago, fought with a broken jaw most of the fight sh*t he did well
I thought he fought the giant russian in Aus Over 10 years ago on a Kostya Undercard, It was outdoors Anyone Know
Terry Wrist
Posted: Friday, September 05, 2008 2:03:01 PM
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I'm a huge fan of boxing and have met Mundine a few times....but..

If he really wants to put his name up in lights around the world then he needs to take a risk or two and get himself over to the States to fight some decent fighters.

Yes Kim was in the top 20 but that still isn't much to brag about. Why not fight some of the real contenders for less money in the States ? He mentions all the politics involved but the big story here is that Mundine still wants the big bucks which is why he has been bargaining hard for a re-match with Danny Green when, for his career progression, he has nothing whatsoever to achieve out of this fight.

I don't even watch his fights anymore. If he got out of his comfort zone a bit and went O/S then I would for sure.

Don't forget he got knocked out by probably the softest punching champion I can remember for a long time. I know he hadn't had many fights but Ottke had hardly knocked anyone out previously.
usherprince
Posted: Saturday, September 06, 2008 3:49:17 PM
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Terry Wrist wrote:
I'm a huge fan of boxing and have met Mundine a few times....but..

If he really wants to put his name up in lights around the world then he needs to take a risk or two and get himself over to the States to fight some decent fighters.

Yes Kim was in the top 20 but that still isn't much to brag about. Why not fight some of the real contenders for less money in the States ? He mentions all the politics involved but the big story here is that Mundine still wants the big bucks which is why he has been bargaining hard for a re-match with Danny Green when, for his career progression, he has nothing whatsoever to achieve out of this fight.

I don't even watch his fights anymore. If he got out of his comfort zone a bit and went O/S then I would for sure.

Don't forget he got knocked out by probably the softest punching champion I can remember for a long time. I know he hadn't had many fights but Ottke had hardly knocked anyone out previously.


well said, i agree with most things you said. What Mundine is doing is no different to what most fighters do unfortunatly. I'm a massive fan of him, and would like to see him fight in USA. I just hope that after beating Green again, he leaves Australia to get some big fights. Like you said, hopefully he'll have made enough money from Green that he can afford to fight overseas for less money
While he still is no match for Pavlik, I reckon he could beat Taylor or Winky, but I still think if Mundine is to do well overseas he has to fight at Middleweight & not Super.

Btw, don't use the Ottke argument! Mundine from that fight is COMPLETELY different to the Mundine today.
OldPom
Posted: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:10:30 AM
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Stop ignoring my question, you guys. Why DOES Australia produce so few top-notch boxers?
usherprince
Posted: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:19:14 PM
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OldPom wrote:
Stop ignoring my question, you guys. Why DOES Australia produce so few top-notch boxers?


Because your post was obviously just an attempt to stir. Obviously you're knowledge of australian boxing, or boxing in general, is quite limited.
Australian world boxing champs (in last 5yrs):
Ndou, Tyszu, Green, Mundine, Darchinyan, St Clair, Pedan
And in a few years you can add Billy Dib to that
south01
Posted: Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:50:07 AM
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Man Hopoate is the real deal lets hope he continues and smashes some Yanks up,also Big Bob said he would knock him out then KO Solomon Hawatu then Ko Barry Hall lol
Well Big Bob got KO'd so now John is the Australian Heavyweight Champ good work Smile


FORMER rugby league bad boy John Hopoate has won the Australian heavyweight boxing championship, the Sydney fighter stopping defending champion Bob Mirovic deep into the ninth round of an epic bout at the Gold Coast convention centre.

Hopoate cornered Mirovic and hit him with more than six clean punches to knock the 42-year-old to the floor.

Mirovic got to his feet but his trainer Jeff Fenech threw in the towel to end the fight.

The win showed that Hopoate was more than a three-round knockout king, and illustrated stamina many thought he did not have.

Experts had said that Hopoate had to knock Mirovic out within four rounds if he were to win the title, and that's the plan the former Australia league international took into the bout.

Hopoate charged straight at Mirovic from the opening bell and delivered five right hooks in a row, and Mirovic spent much of the first round trying to slow the battle and lock arms with Hopoate.

The second round was a more even affair, as Hopoate appeared tired after his opening onslaught and Mirovic got the opportunity to land a few punches before Hopoate finished with a late flurry.

Hopoate was deducted one point in the third round for an attempted head butt.

Hopoate looked to have run out of legs from the fourth round to the seventh, his punches lacking power while Mirovic picked his moments.

Mirovic even opened Hopoate's nose in the sixth round as the heavy hitter began to tire, but Hopoate found his second wind in the eighth round and landed a host of clean blows to Mirovic's face.

The attack left the veteran wobbly and he eventually hit the floor late in the eighth but managed to get to his feet.

But Hopoate took control in the ninth round and ended the fight.
HR
Posted: Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:55:25 PM
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south01 wrote:
Man Hopoate is the real deal lets hope he continues and smashes some Yanks up,also Big Bob said he would knock him out then KO Solomon Hawatu then Ko Barry Hall lol
Well Big Bob got KO'd so now John is the Australian Heavyweight Champ good work Smile


FORMER rugby league bad boy John Hopoate has won the Australian heavyweight boxing championship, the Sydney fighter stopping defending champion Bob Mirovic deep into the ninth round of an epic bout at the Gold Coast convention centre.

Hopoate cornered Mirovic and hit him with more than six clean punches to knock the 42-year-old to the floor.

Mirovic got to his feet but his trainer Jeff Fenech threw in the towel to end the fight.

The win showed that Hopoate was more than a three-round knockout king, and illustrated stamina many thought he did not have.

Experts had said that Hopoate had to knock Mirovic out within four rounds if he were to win the title, and that's the plan the former Australia league international took into the bout.

Hopoate charged straight at Mirovic from the opening bell and delivered five right hooks in a row, and Mirovic spent much of the first round trying to slow the battle and lock arms with Hopoate.

The second round was a more even affair, as Hopoate appeared tired after his opening onslaught and Mirovic got the opportunity to land a few punches before Hopoate finished with a late flurry.

Hopoate was deducted one point in the third round for an attempted head butt.

Hopoate looked to have run out of legs from the fourth round to the seventh, his punches lacking power while Mirovic picked his moments.

Mirovic even opened Hopoate's nose in the sixth round as the heavy hitter began to tire, but Hopoate found his second wind in the eighth round and landed a host of clean blows to Mirovic's face.

The attack left the veteran wobbly and he eventually hit the floor late in the eighth but managed to get to his feet.

But Hopoate took control in the ninth round and ended the fight.


that article doesnt state a key element in big bobs loss

the last 3 rounds he was fighting with left hand jab..... something was wrong with his right hand and he was leaving himself open not even defending himself
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