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RVL Alters fee model Options
Mick12
Posted: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:56:59 AM
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NEW PRODUCT FEE MODEL FOR RACING
The Racing Victoria Limited (RVL) Board today resolved to introduce a new regime for charging interstate totalisators, bookmakers and betting exchanges for betting on Victorian thoroughbred racing for the current racing season.

Under the new policy interstate wagering operators will be charged product fees on gross revenue rather than the current method of turnover on the following basis:

* A base rate of 10% of revenue less GST (ie. gross profits - bets taken less bets paid or commission generated on a betting exchange) for races outside of the Spring Racing Carnival; and

* A premium rate of 15% of revenue less GST for races conducted in Victoria during the months of October and November each year.

This will replace RVL’s current economic contributions policy used for the approval of interstate wagering operators to publish and use Victorian thoroughbred race fields. Under the current policy, bookmakers and betting exchanges are charged up to 1 per cent and totalisators up to 3 per cent of assessable turnover. The current policy provides for a reduction in these fees payable to RVL by interstate operators in recognition of economic contributions made to their local racing industry. The new policy does not permit these offsets.

RVL will notify interstate totalisators, corporate bookmakers, on-course bookmakers and betting exchanges of the new policy which will be implemented over the coming months.

The policy will be reviewed prior to the start of the 2009/10 racing season.

http://www1.racingvictoria.net.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2929&Itemid=250


Mick12
Posted: Thursday, November 20, 2008 9:04:09 AM
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This is interesting.

I still have not got my head around it – I may have some of the following wrong so let me know if that is so.

but I think this means that the interstate handshake agreement is gone.

It also means that fees are charged on GP (profit before operating expenditure,) rather than turn over.

It appears that it opens the doors for other ‘betting operators” other than the monopoly that TAB had.

How does this impact on the TAB (probably poorly)?, the bookmakers and betting exchange (betfair)?

What does it mean to RVL income? Assumedly it will go up?

How wisely will it be spent? How transparent will RVL be?

How much goes to prizemoney?
Duffman
Posted: Thursday, November 20, 2008 9:14:06 AM
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People love the product "Betfair" but its starting to bite the industry.

Reality is Betfair takes a slice of the wagering pie, yet put jack-all back into racing, and its starting to show.

I'm sure some will jump in with a defence "but we just sponsored such and such blah blah blah"

Betfair didn't encroach so much on English racing as it was already a bookmaker dominated market. Different story here, with the TAB's being the major cash flow for the industry.

I'm not anti-Betfair at all, as my account has been very profitable, but not profitable enough to keep an industry afloat...
ShiftyMP
Posted: Thursday, November 20, 2008 9:31:39 AM
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Betfair hope/aim to gain a 5% market share when they finally get a foothold in this country - 3/4/5+ years down the track.

Even that 5% is a lofty aim.



Scare-mongering.
Mick12
Posted: Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:07:42 AM
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ShiftyMP wrote:
Betfair hope/aim to gain a 5% market share when they finally get a foothold in this country - 3/4/5+ years down the track.

Even that 5% is a lofty aim.


Are you saying 5% of betting turnover?
ShiftyMP
Posted: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:51:33 PM
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Market share.
Mick12
Posted: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:06:25 PM
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ShiftyMP wrote:
Market share.


What is market share? - GP on each market?

What % of the total betting pool (punters spend) does betfair need to get in order to achieve 5% market share?
bob.satan
Posted: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:48:16 PM
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The TAB will pay similar to what they pay now

Betfai rwill pay a % of profit which they don't now

so will the corporate bookies (assuming they make a profit

and the on track bookies will make loses, get it all for free and keep their winning bets in a seperate book and pay nothing
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